Cornucopia are particularly bad with overcharging for tea – herbal tea for one is about €2, and if you get a pot for two they double the price, even though all you’re getting is one extra teabag and a little bit more water.
I used to make the same comments when sitting down to a cup of tea in the city centre, until someone made a counter point to me.
Are you not paying more so for your seat, your window, the atmosphere, and the comfort hiding indoors somewhere from the rain?
Their seats would be constantly filled with tea drinkers if they were to charge the reasonable price, and that doesn’t give much back to the cafe does it?
Fair point, Emma. However, that doesn’t excuse the appalling quality of tea you’re usually served. A lot of places use the cheapest possible teabags, which contain something that is pretty much teadust.
I’m happy to pay the going price for a proper cup of tea. Case in point, the Accent Lounge in Dublin charges (if I remember correctly) €2.90 for tea. Yet I’m happy to pay it, because they use lovely, loose leaf tea, they have a choice of a variety of black and herbal tea, and it gets served in a very nice little teapot that contains about three cups.
€2.00 would still be too much for the measly cup of dust you get in a lot of places.
Agreed Evelien! I rarely anymore buy tea outside the house. It’s amazing they get away with using such crap quality in a country full of such tea connoisseurs. It’s about the same that you’d expect from free breakfast buffet tea on the continent. Bleh.
I hate how expensive tea is to buy when out. I understand the price of it in a nice restaurant or a cafe or tea speciality shop like Wall and Keogh. But when your out and about and just wanna nice cuppa the price adds up. I’m (almost) tempted to carry tea bags around and just pay for hot water. We are off to the Dublin Horse Show soon, its a long day and lots of tea will be drank but hate paying over €2 for a teabag in hot water in a plastic cup. Plus I think you should always be offered a top up of hot water (maybe an extra bag) when buying a pot of tea. I hate when places charge you for a second cup.
“Are you not paying more so for your seat, your window, the atmosphere, and the comfort hiding indoors somewhere from the rain?”
Yes, plus the very high cost of low-skilled labour in Ireland, per the high minimum wage etc. Madness in current climate.
But one can go a step further, particularly re. take away tea and coffee, and ask why there aren’t vending machines that could produce a really good cup of tea or coffee (e.g. Cafe Fixx standard for coffee) for a one Euro coin? The whole take away drink industry is waiting for proper automation at high quality and low prices.
I don’t think anyone is naive or wilfully dopey enough to say that tea should only be charged at cost price – of course restaurants have to cover overheads and make a profit. I think the point Peter is making is: why is tea so disproportionate? I heard before that the cost of raw ingredients for a cup of coffee (with grounds, not instant) is about 40c. Cafes charge around €2.80 for coffee, which is a 700% markup. If tea costs 5c (a generous estimate), a €2 cup of tea represents a 4000% markup. Peter says above that up to €2 is fair; I agree that €2 for the tea plus the privilege of using the facilities is fair enough. But €4 for two teabags or €5.35 for a pot is nonsense.
On top of that I’d add, if you go to a fancy restaurant and pay a fair bit for your dinner, why not get a complimentary pot of tea in the end? It would cost the restaurant about 10c and stay in the memory of dinners for a long time… Simple things matter.
By the way, my local chinese restaurant is very generous with their green tea, topping it up the whole evening for a fixed price. Very nice indeed…
But Liana you’re not factoring in the cost of the waiter and the cost of not being able to turn over a table while you finish your tea. It’s not that straightforward.
Monday 16 July, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Cornucopia are particularly bad with overcharging for tea – herbal tea for one is about €2, and if you get a pot for two they double the price, even though all you’re getting is one extra teabag and a little bit more water.
Monday 16 July, 2012 at 1:37 pm
You shouldn’t be allowed charge that much.
Monday 16 July, 2012 at 2:21 pm
I used to make the same comments when sitting down to a cup of tea in the city centre, until someone made a counter point to me.
Are you not paying more so for your seat, your window, the atmosphere, and the comfort hiding indoors somewhere from the rain?
Their seats would be constantly filled with tea drinkers if they were to charge the reasonable price, and that doesn’t give much back to the cafe does it?
Monday 16 July, 2012 at 2:33 pm
I couldn’t have put it better myself Emma. The same argument could be made for the price of a soft drink in a pub or a sandwich in the same cafe.
Monday 16 July, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Fair point, Emma. However, that doesn’t excuse the appalling quality of tea you’re usually served. A lot of places use the cheapest possible teabags, which contain something that is pretty much teadust.
I’m happy to pay the going price for a proper cup of tea. Case in point, the Accent Lounge in Dublin charges (if I remember correctly) €2.90 for tea. Yet I’m happy to pay it, because they use lovely, loose leaf tea, they have a choice of a variety of black and herbal tea, and it gets served in a very nice little teapot that contains about three cups.
€2.00 would still be too much for the measly cup of dust you get in a lot of places.
Monday 16 July, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Agreed Evelien! I rarely anymore buy tea outside the house. It’s amazing they get away with using such crap quality in a country full of such tea connoisseurs. It’s about the same that you’d expect from free breakfast buffet tea on the continent. Bleh.
Monday 16 July, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Why? Because people pay for it.
Monday 16 July, 2012 at 4:44 pm
I hate how expensive tea is to buy when out. I understand the price of it in a nice restaurant or a cafe or tea speciality shop like Wall and Keogh. But when your out and about and just wanna nice cuppa the price adds up. I’m (almost) tempted to carry tea bags around and just pay for hot water. We are off to the Dublin Horse Show soon, its a long day and lots of tea will be drank but hate paying over €2 for a teabag in hot water in a plastic cup. Plus I think you should always be offered a top up of hot water (maybe an extra bag) when buying a pot of tea. I hate when places charge you for a second cup.
Monday 16 July, 2012 at 5:15 pm
“Are you not paying more so for your seat, your window, the atmosphere, and the comfort hiding indoors somewhere from the rain?”
Yes, plus the very high cost of low-skilled labour in Ireland, per the high minimum wage etc. Madness in current climate.
But one can go a step further, particularly re. take away tea and coffee, and ask why there aren’t vending machines that could produce a really good cup of tea or coffee (e.g. Cafe Fixx standard for coffee) for a one Euro coin? The whole take away drink industry is waiting for proper automation at high quality and low prices.
Monday 16 July, 2012 at 5:40 pm
I don’t think anyone is naive or wilfully dopey enough to say that tea should only be charged at cost price – of course restaurants have to cover overheads and make a profit. I think the point Peter is making is: why is tea so disproportionate? I heard before that the cost of raw ingredients for a cup of coffee (with grounds, not instant) is about 40c. Cafes charge around €2.80 for coffee, which is a 700% markup. If tea costs 5c (a generous estimate), a €2 cup of tea represents a 4000% markup. Peter says above that up to €2 is fair; I agree that €2 for the tea plus the privilege of using the facilities is fair enough. But €4 for two teabags or €5.35 for a pot is nonsense.
Wednesday 18 July, 2012 at 8:51 pm
On top of that I’d add, if you go to a fancy restaurant and pay a fair bit for your dinner, why not get a complimentary pot of tea in the end? It would cost the restaurant about 10c and stay in the memory of dinners for a long time… Simple things matter.
By the way, my local chinese restaurant is very generous with their green tea, topping it up the whole evening for a fixed price. Very nice indeed…
Thursday 19 July, 2012 at 8:49 am
But Liana you’re not factoring in the cost of the waiter and the cost of not being able to turn over a table while you finish your tea. It’s not that straightforward.
Thursday 19 July, 2012 at 10:01 am
I think its funny when tea/coffee is included as a ‘course’. A four course meal – starter, main, dessert and tea/coffee.
Thursday 19 July, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Laine you are so right!